Last Assault---Flame Djinn - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Fian Adair · Sep 10, 2005, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Like everybody said, Winter is very useful, luring one by itself and everybody surrounding it.

Also knocking them down is a big help. First time I tried this with a group we all ended up with -60% DP, a 7 party group and only 1 healer, yet we still managed to (almost) kill one with continuous knock-downs. Was a breeze second time.

UberRusty · Sep 10, 2005, 04:36 AM // 04:36

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Of course Mesmers suck. They can only shut down enemies and prevent them from using skills, they can't do direct damage so they must suck.

WTF, stop hacking. The hell is a Mesmer? Must be some weapon or something. Is it one of those new green weapons?

One and Two · Sep 10, 2005, 04:57 AM // 04:57

Mesmer Sword of Pwnage
Chaos Damage (req 1 invitation)
Damage +75% (When pwning)
Auto-drain (Enemy energy)
Auto-backfire (When enemy is present)
Auto-empathy (When enemy is present)
Auto-sacrifice (When backfire is equipped)
Enemy enchantments are busted

Yup, in short, pwnage. hacking. or suckers.

edited: skills

QuixotesGhost · Sep 10, 2005, 04:57 AM // 04:57

Actually Mesmers aren't too efective against this guy. He's hard to shutdown in that he's a warrior that nukes with a skill. Not too many of those going around. Said skill appears to have a .25 activate time so you can't interupt it with Cry of frustration. It's a monster skill so you can't steal it with Arcane Thievery. My Mes/Nec and a Ele/Mes both spammed diversion on it and consuming flames still got through (I'm guessing it has multiple copies on it's skill bar). Basically it looks like the only way to shut this guy down with mesmer skills is Blackout. Or Imagined Burden if you want to kite him.

I just normally go, "Group! Ball Formation!", that works.

GranDeWun · Sep 10, 2005, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Easy way to beat Djinn: Lure it back to the Furnace Guardians. They make short work of it, you just have to watch.

Draconian Lord · Sep 10, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01

Just a quick question does anyone know if the skill "Comsuming Flame" the the flame djinn uses is capturable with a signet. Because that is one bad motha of a skill. Even though the dmg would not be 400 for a lvl character it would still be remarkably useful in combat against several enemies. If anyone is able to capture this let me know.

QuixotesGhost · Sep 10, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Being a (monster skill), much like Wurm Seige, it is not capturable.

Sai of Winter · Sep 10, 2005, 05:12 AM // 05:12

There's another way to defeat them...spam the kegs! It will knock them down and they won't attack.

Credit to the person who told me this. I don't know if I can put her name in here.

Alcaza Bedabra · Sep 10, 2005, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I've taken similar damage from Meteors that the hydras just outside of the Ember Light Camp call down.

A competent Fire elementalist player could be just as bad, really. Air magic is just so much more popular in PvP... probably because of the exhaustion and blindness it causes.

john little · Sep 10, 2005, 07:53 AM // 07:53

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Originally Posted by gou

it's main attack deal 400 damage to one target, or if 2 are nearby 200 dmg to each and so on, so just get every team member to crowd around it. It won't do less damage total but it will spread the damage across all the targets.
This uber attack also heal the djin for the amount it damages a single target, so again crowding around it will help. Like others have said, use the NPCs to soak a bit of damage and reduce it's healing further. Very easy to kill this way.

That is definately the way to do it, you don't really need complicated builds or even djinn specific ones. It becomes pretty easy when the attack is reduced to 50 and only heals it for 50.

The party setup I was in when we beat that mission was: 2 healing monks, Lina, 2 warriors (inc. Devona), 2 elementalists (both fire iirc) and a minion necro.

kleps · Sep 10, 2005, 08:04 AM // 08:04

i was in a PUG tonight doing final assault and we literally got raped by the 3 flame djinns for probably 30 minutes. sitting at 60 dp, there wasnt much that we could do.

however, we did find a way to beat them and if you look at the my screen shots, they do not show any hp loss.

no the photos were not chopped. i still have the original 2mb print screens sitting in my folder if anyone wants to see them.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...893#post476893

Sai of Winter · Sep 10, 2005, 12:26 PM // 12:26

I've finally finished that mission on my third try!!! Man I tell you, it was nuts! In our group we had one person that doesn't speak english and she was aggroing everything. Everything one of our party spoke to her, all she does is stay quiet or infinitely say "lol." (O_o) We found out she was from China... Lucky we had someone in our group that could speak Chinese. It was pretty funny seeing her translate the directions to the Chinese person. I wish I had taken pictures of that (-_-)' Once she knew what to do, we finally beat that friggin mission. Thanks to our little monk girl who translated the directions to her or we would've been screwed.

Paine · Sep 10, 2005, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by Savio

Of course Mesmers suck. They can only shut down enemies and prevent them from using skills, they can't do direct damage so they must suck.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
I think you're Goerge W. Bush since he is that stupid.

The mesmer is the best profession in the game. We can counter exactly everything. If you played during the betas, ANET & NCSoft recommended not to play as a mesmer as your starting character since they're hard to play with. Also, it's the hardest profession to control.
The easiest profession to control would be the warrior and the elementalist.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b ranger.

Hentai · Sep 10, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Agreed with Paine.

Rancour · Sep 10, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51

Now, I wouldn't say Mesmers are the strongest. Wether a profession is the "strongest" can only be defined by the player. However, it's wrong to say that Mesmers suck. In the right hands, any profession can be deadly and even a Warrior can stink in the hands of a newbie. It all depends on the skills of the player.

But it's true, though, that Mesmer is a tough profession to learn to use properly. Using the right skills at the right moment is essential. But in my opinion, all the profession are pretty easy to learn, but hard to master. The Mesmer is just harder to learn to use, but is equally hard to master as the Warrior profession.

Jamski · Sep 10, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55

Since the Djinn's damage is divided between all the targets, mob him with masses of minions, pets, melee him with the whole team, even the casters and drag the npcs in too. Oh look, he's suddenly doing about 20-30 damage instead of 400. OMGWTFPWNed.

TomD22 · Sep 10, 2005, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by Paine

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
I think you're Goerge W. Bush since he is that stupid.

The mesmer is the best profession in the game. We can counter exactly everything. If you played during the betas, ANET & NCSoft recommended not to play as a mesmer as your starting character since they're hard to play with. Also, it's the hardest profession to control.
The easiest profession to control would be the warrior and the elementalist.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b ranger.

LOL. moron. that post was sarcastic, and is part of a string of them whinging that mesmers aren't appreciated

Theos · Sep 10, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paine

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
I think you're Goerge W. Bush since he is that stupid.

The mesmer is the best profession in the game. We can counter exactly everything. If you played during the betas, ANET & NCSoft recommended not to play as a mesmer as your starting character since they're hard to play with. Also, it's the hardest profession to control.
The easiest profession to control would be the warrior and the elementalist.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b ranger.

So this is where the mesmers get their bad rep... why would you say it is the strongest class? It clearly isn't... oh I am not a noob ranger, I am a mesmer

.
The only people who think that mesmers are the strongest class are those who were either A.) beaten by one, B.) Just figured out how to use it and think they are "leet" C.) Like bragging about being the most underplayed class in the PvE side.

So where you get it as being the best is beyond me, a mesmer can counter alot of crap, Casters more than Warriors or Rangers, but that doesn't make them better than everyone else. Lets make a list....

We have rangers, which you called noobs, perhaps the best counter to a mesmer. Perhaps you are pissed at being killed by them? So quick list now...

Ranger > Mesmer > Elementalist/Necro/Monk > Warrior > Ranger... etc....

UberRusty · Sep 10, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38

LOL @ Paine and Hentai: The post was saracastic.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b brain.

schutz · Sep 10, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36

When i was in a group he mauled us at first then we all seperated and a few guys were left he chased them to the furance guardians and the brutes or summits nearby not so sure and he made quick work of them then he vanished and we just went on with mission

Sep 10, 2005, 04:57 AM // 04:57	#23
One and Two Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005	Mesmer Sword of Pwnage Chaos Damage (req 1 invitation) Damage +75% (When pwning) Auto-drain (Enemy energy) Auto-backfire (When enemy is present) Auto-empathy (When enemy is present) Auto-sacrifice (When backfire is equipped) Enemy enchantments are busted Yup, in short, pwnage. hacking. or suckers. edited: skills Last edited by One and Two; Sep 10, 2005 at 05:00 AM // 05:00..

Sep 10, 2005, 04:57 AM // 04:57	#24
QuixotesGhost Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005	Actually Mesmers aren't too efective against this guy. He's hard to shutdown in that he's a warrior that nukes with a skill. Not too many of those going around. Said skill appears to have a .25 activate time so you can't interupt it with Cry of frustration. It's a monster skill so you can't steal it with Arcane Thievery. My Mes/Nec and a Ele/Mes both spammed diversion on it and consuming flames still got through (I'm guessing it has multiple copies on it's skill bar). Basically it looks like the only way to shut this guy down with mesmer skills is Blackout. Or Imagined Burden if you want to kite him. I just normally go, "Group! Ball Formation!", that works. Last edited by QuixotesGhost; Sep 10, 2005 at 05:00 AM // 05:00..

Sep 10, 2005, 04:33 AM // 04:33	#21
Fian Adair Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Guild: An Cuallacht Profession: R/Me	Like everybody said, Winter is very useful, luring one by itself and everybody surrounding it. Also knocking them down is a big help. First time I tried this with a group we all ended up with -60% DP, a 7 party group and only 1 healer, yet we still managed to (almost) kill one with continuous knock-downs. Was a breeze second time.

Sep 10, 2005, 05:00 AM // 05:00	#25
GranDeWun Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	Easy way to beat Djinn: Lure it back to the Furnace Guardians. They make short work of it, you just have to watch.

Sep 10, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01	#26
Draconian Lord Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SC Guild: Draconian Order of Aetheism Profession: W/E	Just a quick question does anyone know if the skill "Comsuming Flame" the the flame djinn uses is capturable with a signet. Because that is one bad motha of a skill. Even though the dmg would not be 400 for a lvl character it would still be remarkably useful in combat against several enemies. If anyone is able to capture this let me know.

Sep 10, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03	#27
QuixotesGhost Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005	Being a (monster skill), much like Wurm Seige, it is not capturable.

Sep 10, 2005, 05:12 AM // 05:12	#28
Sai of Winter Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: [ale] Profession: Mo/	There's another way to defeat them...spam the kegs! It will knock them down and they won't attack. Credit to the person who told me this. I don't know if I can put her name in here.

Sep 10, 2005, 05:50 AM // 05:50	#29
Alcaza Bedabra Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Jaine's Outpost Profession: Mo/E	I've taken similar damage from Meteors that the hydras just outside of the Ember Light Camp call down. A competent Fire elementalist player could be just as bad, really. Air magic is just so much more popular in PvP... probably because of the exhaustion and blindness it causes.

Sep 10, 2005, 08:04 AM // 08:04	#31
kleps Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/Mo	i was in a PUG tonight doing final assault and we literally got raped by the 3 flame djinns for probably 30 minutes. sitting at 60 dp, there wasnt much that we could do. however, we did find a way to beat them and if you look at the my screen shots, they do not show any hp loss. no the photos were not chopped. i still have the original 2mb print screens sitting in my folder if anyone wants to see them. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...893#post476893

Sep 10, 2005, 12:26 PM // 12:26	#32
Sai of Winter Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: [ale] Profession: Mo/	I've finally finished that mission on my third try!!! Man I tell you, it was nuts! In our group we had one person that doesn't speak english and she was aggroing everything. Everything one of our party spoke to her, all she does is stay quiet or infinitely say "lol." (O_o) We found out she was from China... Lucky we had someone in our group that could speak Chinese. It was pretty funny seeing her translate the directions to the Chinese person. I wish I had taken pictures of that (-_-)' Once she knew what to do, we finally beat that friggin mission. Thanks to our little monk girl who translated the directions to her or we would've been screwed.

Sep 10, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50	#34
Hentai Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005	Agreed with Paine.

Sep 10, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51	#35
Rancour Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Camp Rancor (Rancour :D) Guild: I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am) Profession: W/R	Now, I wouldn't say Mesmers are the strongest. Wether a profession is the "strongest" can only be defined by the player. However, it's wrong to say that Mesmers suck. In the right hands, any profession can be deadly and even a Warrior can stink in the hands of a newbie. It all depends on the skills of the player. But it's true, though, that Mesmer is a tough profession to learn to use properly. Using the right skills at the right moment is essential. But in my opinion, all the profession are pretty easy to learn, but hard to master. The Mesmer is just harder to learn to use, but is equally hard to master as the Warrior profession.

Sep 10, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55	#36
Jamski Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005	Since the Djinn's damage is divided between all the targets, mob him with masses of minions, pets, melee him with the whole team, even the casters and drag the npcs in too. Oh look, he's suddenly doing about 20-30 damage instead of 400. OMGWTFPWNed.

Sep 10, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#39
UberRusty Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: amsterdam, where male prostitution is legal Guild: [GGG] Gay Guild Gals Profession: W/R	LOL @ Paine and Hentai: The post was saracastic. If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b brain.

Sep 10, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#40
schutz Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: wales Profession: W/Me	When i was in a group he mauled us at first then we all seperated and a few guys were left he chased them to the furance guardians and the brutes or summits nearby not so sure and he made quick work of them then he vanished and we just went on with mission